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I noticed today that the staff tools FAQ shows three sets of permissions but the ACP only gives us two to assign.

The option of assigning a Moderator is no longer in the ACP. We can only assign Super mod or Forum mod..
Staff tools FAQ:
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What shows in the ACP:
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Was there a recent change or is this a glitch??
 

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I noticed today that the staff tools FAQ shows three sets of permissions but the ACP only gives us two to assign.

The option of assigning a Moderator is no longer in the ACP. We can only assign Super mod or Forum mod..
Staff tools FAQ:
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What shows in the ACP:
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Was there a recent change or is this a glitch??
I believe you'll find that you assign a section mod in the "Node" section to the particular forum you want them to moderate.

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All our mods are super mods. A super mod can interact on any forum but a mod is assigned a specific forum, I think. We have no mods at Electricians Talk .
 
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I'm the same, all super mods. If you promote someone you should confidence they are capable. But on larger forums I can definitely see having section mods to be you eyes. I'm pretty lucky, I can read, or at least skim over every post.
 
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When we first transitioned over to Xenforo from VBulletin I remember we had the 3 options in the ACP but now it only shows the two.

Back in our Vbulletin days, we had the option of assigning a new mod as a probie ( mod today) with basic mod abilities so they can learn the ropes then promote up to Moderator as they got comfortable with the position.
 

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This has more to do with Xenforo's default terms and the terms used in general for all forums.

Xenforo categorizes Moderators in 3 levels:
  • Forum Moderator (Section Moderators)
  • Super Moderators (Site Moderator and Site Super Moderators)
  • Administrators (Administrator and Super Administrator)
Once you select the category level, the platform allows you to select a permission set for the Moderator. This is where the common terms "Section Moderator", "Moderator", "Super Moderator" and "Administrator" is determined.

For example, selecting Super Moderator types will allow the selection "Mod Permissions" or "Supermod Permissions":
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By selecting Forum Moderators, you will see a similar menu displayed but with the option to "Set default Section Mod Permissions".

I know that this can be confusing since you would need to select "Super Moderator" on the first menu then set them as a "Moderator" on the second menu, but this is just a limitation in the design of Xenforo platform.

In general, we tend to make all site level moderators "Super Moderators" as this gives them access to all moderator tools (Staff Tools). "Moderator" level has some restrictions to the staff tools and is generally only used as a way to introduce someone to the role of being a moderator who is unfamiliar with the duties or options and unsure about their abilities. When they show that they are confident, we tend to bump them up to "Super Moderators" as soon as they have gone through a probation period (so to speak).

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This has more to do with Xenforo's default terms and the terms used in general for all forums.

Xenforo categorizes Moderators in 3 levels:
  • Forum Moderator (Section Moderators)
  • Super Moderators (Site Moderator and Site Super Moderators)
  • Administrators (Administrator and Super Administrator)
Once you select the category level, the platform allows you to select a permission set for the Moderator. This is where the common terms "Section Moderator", "Moderator", "Super Moderator" and "Administrator" is determined.

For example, selecting Super Moderator types will allow the selection "Mod Permissions" or "Supermod Permissions":
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By selecting Forum Moderators, you will see a similar menu displayed but with the option to "Set default Section Mod Permissions".

I know that this can be confusing since you would need to select "Super Moderator" on the first menu then set them as a "Moderator" on the second menu, but this is just a limitation in the design of Xenforo platform.

In general, we tend to make all site level moderators "Super Moderators" as this gives them access to all moderator tools (Staff Tools). "Moderator" level has some restrictions to the staff tools and is generally only used as a way to introduce someone to the role of being a moderator who is unfamiliar with the duties or options and unsure about their abilities. When they show that they are confident, we tend to bump them up to "Super Moderators" as soon as they have gone through a probation period (so to speak).

Daniel


Thanks for the info Daniel (y)
 

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This has more to do with Xenforo's default terms and the terms used in general for all forums.

Xenforo categorizes Moderators in 3 levels:
  • Forum Moderator (Section Moderators)
  • Super Moderators (Site Moderator and Site Super Moderators)
  • Administrators (Administrator and Super Administrator)
Once you select the category level, the platform allows you to select a permission set for the Moderator. This is where the common terms "Section Moderator", "Moderator", "Super Moderator" and "Administrator" is determined.

For example, selecting Super Moderator types will allow the selection "Mod Permissions" or "Supermod Permissions":
View attachment 6857

By selecting Forum Moderators, you will see a similar menu displayed but with the option to "Set default Section Mod Permissions".

I know that this can be confusing since you would need to select "Super Moderator" on the first menu then set them as a "Moderator" on the second menu, but this is just a limitation in the design of Xenforo platform.

In general, we tend to make all site level moderators "Super Moderators" as this gives them access to all moderator tools (Staff Tools). "Moderator" level has some restrictions to the staff tools and is generally only used as a way to introduce someone to the role of being a moderator who is unfamiliar with the duties or options and unsure about their abilities. When they show that they are confident, we tend to bump them up to "Super Moderators" as soon as they have gone through a probation period (so to speak).

Daniel
Here's a question that might come up. If you do make some a "Super Moderator" then do the "Set default Section Mod Permission" of "Moderator" for just one forum, then 3 months from now you want to add 2 more forums for this person to moderate, do you have to make him a "Super Moderator" again then just a "Moderator" for the added 2 forums or at that point will it allow you just just add the 2 new forums? I'd test it with one guy I originally wanted as just a Moderator but he's turned out to be one of our better Super Moderators. Not going to bug him and don't really want to do a test. Thought maybe you would know right off the bat.
 

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Here's a question that might come up. If you do make some a "Super Moderator" then do the "Set default Section Mod Permission" of "Moderator" for just one forum, then 3 months from now you want to add 2 more forums for this person to moderate, do you have to make him a "Super Moderator" again then just a "Moderator" for the added 2 forums or at that point will it allow you just just add the 2 new forums? I'd test it with one guy I originally wanted as just a Moderator but he's turned out to be one of our better Super Moderators. Not going to bug him and don't really want to do a test. Thought maybe you would know right off the bat.
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If you select "Super Moderator" on this screen, they are forum wide moderators. They have access to all nodes and permissions of a moderator in all nodes. If you select "Forum Moderator" here, they only will get the permissions for the selected forum Node. If you want them to moderate multiple forum nodes, you have to repeat this step for each additional node.

then 3 months from now you want to add 2 more forums for this person to moderate, do you have to make him a "Super Moderator" again then just a "Moderator" for the added 2 forums or at that point will it allow you just just add the 2 new forums?
So, this only applies if you set him as a "Forum Moderator" as noted above.

If you have selected "Super Moderator" type, only then will you get the option to set as "Moderator" or "Super Moderator" permission levels:
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If they are made a "Moderator" here, they will have all moderator permissions in all forums nodes (the entire site). There is no need to set individual forums for anyone in the "Super Moderator" type category for this reason.

Being set as a "Super Moderator" type will override a "Forum Moderator" type too. So if they were previously a "Forum Moderator" and later upgraded to a "Super Moderator" you do not need to change anything with their permissions beyond adding them to the "Super Moderator" type list.

Does that clear it up?

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No it doesn't. I understand the process for getting someone to be a moderator for one and only one forum. My question was how do you add a forum for that moderator a year later(I said 3 months originally but you missed that apparently)? Do you have to again make him a Super Mod then do Moderator only permission or will you be able to just select the make moderator and it pick up the correct permissions? Sounds like you have to do the Super Mod then Mod permission, AGAIN. Dang vBulletin made this so much more straight forward.
 

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No it doesn't. I understand the process for getting someone to be a moderator for one and only one forum. My question was how do you add a forum for that moderator a year later(I said 3 months originally but you missed that apparently)? Do you have to again make him a Super Mod then do Moderator only permission or will you be able to just select the make moderator and it pick up the correct permissions? Sounds like you have to do the Super Mod then Mod permission, AGAIN. Dang vBulletin made this so much more straight forward.
I think I am still confused by the question here because I think we are mincing terms. You do not need to add forums for site level. You do need to for Forum Moderators (Section Moderators).

Forum Moderators (Section moderators) - You will need to repeat the steps for every node (forum) that they will moderate. So if they moderate 10 nodes only, you would need to repeat the step for all 10 nodes. These moderators will not be displayed as "Moderators" or "Super Moderators" and will not be displayed as staff. "Forum Moderators" will display in the list below the "Super Moderators" list showing all nodes they have permissions to access:

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If you want to change a Forum Moderator into a Super Moderator:
Select "Add Moderator"
Select "Super Moderator"
Select the permissions set (Mod or Super Mod).
Save (bottom of the page)

To change a "Super Mod" permissions (Change Mod/Super Mod):
Click on the username on the Moderator Screen:
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Select the permission level you want to apply (same menu as adding a mod):
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Save (bottom of the page)

To remove a section or a moderator's permissions, click the trashcan icon on the right hand side. This will remove that item from the list.

If the question is about adding a forum to the site (adding a node), this is a different topic and I would suggest we start a different thread. This topic was about the Moderator levels and options since the menu displays only 2 types in the list.

Daniel
 
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